8 Oct – PZ Lies About a Bunch of College Kids

Yesterday, we noted that PZ Myers continued an annual tradition of sorts by verbally abusing a group of college-aged kids because they hold different political opinions than he does.

He kept on that same theme today, but it’s unclear the campus College Republicans were actually responsible for the posters he goes on an incoherent rant about.

Once again, we’ve reached out to the College Republicans at the University of Minnesota, Morris, who haven’t responded in time for this post to go live.

PZ Myers Lie [in bold]:

It’s happening again. Our local [SATIRE!] campus troglodytes and assholes, the College Republicans, are splattering corkboards with their messages of resentment. They really don’t like the fact that we’ve got students who don’t think like they do and expect to be tolerated, so they’ve been putting up argumentative, emotional posters in reaction to statements of fact. Like these two in the science building.


The “messages” PZ refers to above are here:

Campus Republican Fliers?

There are any number of things wrong with PZ’s statement. First, it’s not clear that these “posters” were produced by the College Republicans. Except for the letters “CR” in small font at the bottom right of the “poster” in the top left-hand portion of the pic, absolutely nothing identifies these as being affiliated with the Morris College Republicans.

We’ve reached out to them for comment, and will update this post when it happens.

Even if we assume, however, that these two messages were posted by the College Republicans, they are at best respectful and at worst incoherent. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with the one on the right – which echoes sentiments PZ has stated many times – and the only thing that could be construed as “resentful” on the left is this sentence: “Your Gender Identity and Pronouns are not real & not Valid.”

But, immediately following that sentence is this tolerant, respectful statement: “Freedom of Speech applies to both genders equally Stand up for your fellow Students Even if they have differences.”

This is simply incoherent and in no way can be construed as a sentiment of “resentment.” And both “posters” offer entreaties to “stand up for your fellow students.” It’s hard for us to square what PZ wrote about this “posters” with what’s actually on them, they differ so much we started to wonder if PZ didn’t accidentally put up the wrong picture in this post, but he not only put up the picture, he reproduced the words in each “poster” below the picture itself. So we know he read it.

And lied about it, from start to finish.


This looks to us like a troll – a student deliberately trying to provoke a reaction by posting two diametrically opposed statements, one of which sounds like a caricature of something a College Republican might say in jest. We wouldn’t be surprised to find out that a progressive group on campus put these fliers up to make the College Republicans look bad.

But let’s assume they didn’t, and these are actual Morris College Republican fliers. So what? It’s a group of college kids acting out to try to get a reaction. Why does PZ feel the need to continually berate them instead of – oh we don’t know – teaching them? It’s been a while since we were in college but that’s what professors used to do…

PZ Myers Lie #2 [in bold]:

It’s almost amusing how pissed off the CR’s are at people who affirm their own identities, that they then have to print up posters insisting that “NO, WE KNOW YOUR IDENTITY BETTER THAN YOU DO. SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP.” Except of course that these conservative clowns want to pass legislation to restrict everyone’s freedoms, and some of them are likely to express their hate with violence.


Three lies here.

Again, assuming both of these are authentic fliers produced by the Morris College Republicans, nowhere do they tell anyone to shut up. In fact, both fliers advocate for freedom of speech for everyone. That’s the first lie.

The second is PZ’s claim that the College Republicans “want to pass legislation to restrict everyone’s freedoms.” He does not back up that claim with evidence, but restricting the freedom of “everyone” cannot be seen anywhere on the Republican platform.

The third lie in this snippet is the idea that some of these College Republicans (once again, assuming that’s who made the posters) will become violent. We’ve seen no data to suggest that college students who identify as Republican will become politically violent at a greater or lesser rate than college students who identify as Liberal or Progressive, and PZ doesn’t offer any. Anecdotally, we’d say the opposite is true given the violence we’ve seen reported involving antifa in Portland and elsewhere.


We thought we’d seen PZ at his despicable worst back in July when he was excusing antifa violence against journalists, but this might be worse. These are college kids with what we assume are immature ideas about political philosophy. We certainly had some screwy ideas when we were that age, and we’re glad we didn’t have a tenured professor verbally abusing us while we worked them out.

PZ could use an opportunity like this to start a dialogue. He could use an opportunity like this to educate, to share ideas, and to bring people together. But that’s not what he’s all about, even when it involves young adults he’s paid to teach.

Final Tally:

Today: 0 science-related posts, 3 posts on other stuff

Since 30 May 19: 117 science-related posts, 445 non-science posts.

21% of the posts on a “science blog” are about science. 

Today: 2 PZ Myers Lies

Since 30 May 19: 136 PZ Myers Lies

Over to you, PZ. Until tomorrow.

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